Talk:Rostov-on-Don

Gateway

Have to erase the historically and politically incorrect statement on Rostov-on-Don being the proverbial *Gateway to the Caucasus*. That is the reflection of the old rivalry between the city of Rostov and the city of Stavropol. All the history books and monographs clearly state that Stavropol, founded back in 1777, has been the Gateway ever since. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.212.174.140 (talk) 20:18, 2 February 2005 (UTC)

Anecdotal, but I talked to two Chechens who were visiting Rostov and they called it the gateway and the capital. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AllenHansen (talk • contribs) 10:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I think that Rostov IS to be called The Gateway to the Caucauses both logically and by number of occurances in modern texts and speech. Its evident that the way from Europe passes throu Rostov crossing the main natural obstacle here - the Don. Therefore it IS the gates at the trading / transport way from Europe (which is definitely the main direction).

I suppose that one should not judge by the historical background just because this is his/her specialization. It refers more to the modern society and linguistics rather than to history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.80.111.240 (talk) 14:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Chikatilo

I wonder if mentioning the serial killer Chikatilo is appropriate in this article. I would certainly edit it out. ISasha | talk 9:52, Feb. 17, 2006 (MSK)

Rostov-on-THE-Don perhaps?

Why do you write Rostov-On-Don? The Don is a river, therefore it should be Rostov-on-the-Don! Note, that the german translation is already correct "Rostow-am-Don" (am = an dem = on the). http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostow_am_Don —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.34.13.172 (talk) 16:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

According to the English dictionaries and encyclopedias I consulted, the name of the city in English is "Rostov-on-Don" ("Rostov-na-Donu" is also used); see, for example, [1], [2], and [3]. Same goes for Komsomolsk-on-Amur and other similarly called locations.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I live in Rostov-on-Don, and its name is writing as "Rostov-on-Don" in English. 195.151.56.242 21:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Chikatilo again

I have to erase the sentence about Chikatilo because he didn't live in Rostov he lived in Novcherkassk. He was tried in Rostov though.

Serge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgi va (talk • contribs) 15:03, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

History - collapse of communism :D

'the collapse of communism' should be replaced by 'the collapse of USSR'. One should know that communism did not collapse because there were no communism, it was said to be in process of building. it was the Soviet Union which collapsed.

@Sgornul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.80.111.240 (talk) 14:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Great Patriotic War

The term "Great Patriotic War" is not used outside of the former Soviet Union. In all English speaking countries it is called World War II. Since this is an English-language article, I am going to change it to the conventional term used in English.Udibi (talk) 04:57, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

My revision was promptly reverted. Again, I must stress that the term "Great Patriotic War" is a Soviet propaganda term for WWII, and one that is completely alien to almost all native English speakers. As such, "Great Patriotic War" does not constitute a valid blue link. However, this term appears to have considerable importance to the former-Soviets on Wikipeida. I will attempt a revision that uses conventional English terms yet also makes note of the Soviet term.Udibi (talk) 03:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Great person who was born (1885) and died (1942) at Roston-on-Don

Sabina Spielrein, physician and one of the first female psychoanalysts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.115.102.186 (talk) 19:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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Copyedited

Let's keep improving!! Myrtlegroggins (talk) 09:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Map

Too bad there isn't a map with Rostov in the middle, instead of on the left edge. We can see where it is within Russia, but not where it is relative to locations that an Englsh-speaking wikipedia reader would be familar with, e.g. eastern Europe, the Black Sea, Turkey, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.88.11.121 (talk) 03:57, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

notable people x 2

Have I drunk too much? Am I seeing double? Or there are 2 "notable people" sections? :) Azylber (talk) 05:42, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

There is a simple test. Close one eye, and if you are still seeing doubles, chances are there are really two sections... or you drank way too much :)

Anyway, I've merged the sections and removed the duplicates. Thanks for spotting this! Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 17, 2013; 12:56 (UTC)

Collage

I want to suggest a new image to Rostov-on-Don infobox. Smarchenk (talk) 11:00, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

From upper left: Stela «City of Military Glory», Kirov region, Building City Council, House Ivan Zvorykina, Pokrovskaya church, Rostov railroad drawbridge

That's nice! Does it meet all the copyright requirements? Regards, Myrtle. Myrtlegroggins (talk) 11:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

It's an excellent collage for a full screen. However, please bear in mind that we are not all of us as young as we were, and some of us even try and access wikipedia using "telephone" handsets. Do you not think that there is simply too much detail that for many people will be pretty miroscopic to provide what is intended as an instant visual introduction to the subject? But that's only one person's reaction. Maybe other folks with perfect vision will think I'm wrong. Have a good new year celebration (western Gregorian calendar) either way. Regards Charles01 (talk) 11:32, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Can we use each picture as part of a gallery for the article? Regards, Myrtle Myrtlegroggins (talk) 12:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

All the images are taken from commons.wikimedia and have a license Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported. Each picture can be used for the gallery. Smarchenk (talk) 18:37, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Would you like me to create a gallery and then we may compare to see how each looks? Happy New Year, Myrtle Myrtlegroggins (talk) 21:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Your judgement is as good as anyone else's. Do what improves the entry in your judgement. No doubt one fine day someone (possibly you, possibly another) will make improvements to your improvements. That's how the process works. (I see that at least one of the pictures is already included in the entry - or else one very very much like it.) Regards Charles01 (talk) 08:48, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

There is a bad news. The top image (Stela «City of Military Glory» with red flags) and right bottom image (Pokrovskaya church) break a law "No FOP in Russia" :(see commons:Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Russia). -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 13:19, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, what a shame. Thanks for letting us know. There is a nice gallery at [[Victoria Memorial (India). I think the formatting would suit this artic on Rostov well. I'll bring it across. Happy new year, Myrtle. Myrtlegroggins (talk) 21:29, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey! The gallery looks good. I've done a little on layout and a few little typos. Cheers, Myrtle Myrtlegroggins (talk) 08:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Collage - is very ugly picture. What could be worse? Nothing. Avedon (talk) 09:23, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

No need for 'the'

In British English it's absolutely standard practice to have no article in place-names that include 'on' or 'upon'. Consider, for example: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Stoke-on-Trent, Stratford-upon-Avon, Henley-on-Thames, etc. (This is in reply to an earlier, rather old suggestion that 'the' should be included). Norvo (talk) 23:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Timeline of Rostov-on-Don

What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 11:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

It is the missile strike from Sep. 7th (which I personally added in) 174.165.213.3 (talk) 04:16, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

But you did not provide any reliable sources so hence I reverted it twice. A09 (talk) 12:45, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

"Unknown Insurgents" Buried at Rostov-on-Don Cemetery.

Should this be mentioned in the article? https://en.censor.net.ua/photo_news/311953/hundreds_of_unknown_insurgents_buried_at_rostovondon_cemetery_photos https://en.censor.net.ua/photo_news/330566/new_cemetery_with_hundreds_of_graves_of_unknown_russian_fighters_appeared_in_rostov_photos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:26, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Starbucks

"Other facilities" section mentions that there's a Starbucks and claims that that is rare in this region of Russia. Given that there are now two and there are several in a relatively close city I think this is wrong. There was no citation to justify the rarity of Starbuckses so maybe the whole mention should go? If this was the first city in the region to get one and that was considered a notable event locally then maybe there's a news source that covers it, otherwise it's unnecessary. Dichohecho (talk) 12:27, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Paragraph: "Notable people"

Good morning. The paragraph "Notable people" is organized and structured very badly, to the point that I would rather not change anything, because I could be wrong, since in some parts it is not understandable at all, and in all other parts almost nothing is understood. For example, it's not clear (due to the incorrect or lack of use of commas, to distinguish one known person from another) who is who (e.g., the name of a singer is present, but his genre (i.e. 'classical') is not specified; the singer in question is Yuri Bashmet; its genre is not "pop", but "classical" (within the subparagraph "Musicians, composers and singers")). Could someone take care of the paragraph I refer to and put it in order? JackkBrown (talk) 13:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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Move to “Rostov”

Should it be moved to “Rostov”? 91838jeu72737 (talk) 09:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Why? A09|(talk) 12:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Lead gallery

JukoFF, as far as I understand the rules, you should not have reverted my revert. You should have started the discussion instead. “Objectively worse” sounds like nonsense here. I explained why they’re objectively better in the summary. Please explain your definition of “objectively worse”. Explain it in more detail. What is “phototelegraphy”? The theme of the lead gallery hasn’t changed, it’s the same focal city sights, but executed and presented in higher quality. --Argenberg (talk) 20:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

These images have been online on this page for six weeks since September 18th, and no other editors expressed any concerns. So this version could be considered consensual/stable. --Argenberg (talk) 23:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

More supporting votes needed to implement new version with higher quality, realistic images to better represent the city of Rostov-on-Don. --Argenberg (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Don River Embankment

Rostov City Hall

Rostov-on-Don Cathedral

Theatre Square

Rostov Arena

Voroshilovsky Bridge and Don River